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Heights, and a question about titles

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Submitted by Van on Thu, 02/11/2010 - 12:06.

Do you have some sort of script to randomize kids' final heights based on the heights of their parents? Or do you just sort of arbitrarily decide on heights within a sensical range (like "Yware seems like he'll be taller than Dunstan, but with his parents, he can't be taller than Caedwulf" or whatnot)?

Also, hypothetical title question. Suppose a married man is next in line to be duke/earl/whatever, and his wife dies before his father does. However, the father dies before the man takes a second wife. Would his first wife be given the title of duchess/countess/whatever posthumously?

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*wonders who Van is planning

Submitted by Lothere on Thu, 02/11/2010 - 15:05.

*wonders who Van is planning on killing in Naroni...*

It's funny, heights are something I still make up out of my head. I don't have any statistics about the range of child heights you would expect from parents of height N and M. Plus there are things like premature birth and malnutrition to take into account.

I just do what I like -- in a sensical manner, as you say. (Though the men in Matilda's family are quite tall, so her sons have a fighting chance. I think the Old Man will be 5'10".) I also do what helps make the character. Height seems to matter a lot in character development -- just like beauty and ugliness. What would Alred have been if he were tall? What would Sigefrith be if he were shrimpy? And what if Gwynn were not of portable size? Smile

I don't think the dead wife of a new Duke gets promoted to Duchess. I've never heard of such a thing. Titles aren't generally retroactively posthumous that I know of. Surprised In the case of Queens its an actual consecration so I am sure it can't be retroactive. And maybe that's true for Duchesses too... I wonder if a woman, upon marrying a Duke, is in some way "declared" a Duchess by the monarch? Surely it must be so! There must be a protocol for this! My American upbringing is showing!

Brit outranks Alred and Dunstan anyway, so I'm not too worried about the question, personally. Wink

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Not killing anyone

Submitted by Van on Thu, 02/11/2010 - 19:54.

Not killing anyone important... um, yet Laughing

Besides, I think the oldest of my main heirs is like, ten Shocked

Hmmm... I found this thing. I don't know how it works, but I ran the heights of my parents and it predicted that I was 5'3.5", which is close (I'm 5'4"). But yeah, it doesn't take into account the things you mentioned, and obviously not all sisters or brothers turn out to be the same height.

But like you said, it does contribute the character, so perhaps it's best to just go with the gut in regards to heights Smile

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I did it, and it told me I

Submitted by Lothere on Fri, 02/12/2010 - 12:21.

I did it, and it told me I should be 5'6.5". Whereas I am 5'9"! I'm not even within their 68% chance range. It says I have a 95% chance of being within 5'2.5" and 5'10.5" which seems almost self-evident. So, not very useful. Smile

I guess I will keep on making up my own heights. Somehow this has never bothered me, in spite of how much fun I have making everything else randomized in one way or another (via the game or via my own random number generators).

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I've got the answer for the

Submitted by François on Fri, 02/12/2010 - 13:43.

I've got the answer for the title question (being a European Smile ). If someone who's in line to become duke marries, his wife takes the title he currently has (like Lord/Lady, Marquess/Marchioness ... ). If she dies before he becomes a duke, she'll never be a duchess. And the second wife he'll take (assuming he does), will be duchess. There were even examples of wives of Kings of England that were never Queen for they married before their husbands were kings, had children and died. And they were never considered as queens.

And any woman marrying a Duke can be promoted a Duchess, unless they are commoners. Hence, it's a morganatic alliance and it's to the King or Queen to decide whether she can have a title at all (usually inferior to her husband) and if their children can be heir to the dukedom.

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